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How Fear Shapes Disease: Prāṇa, Pulse & Ayurvedic Healing | Dr A.V. Raju #151

• Dylan Smith: Ayurvedic Practitioner, Holistic Health Educator, Conscious Entrepreneur • Season 1

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In this profound wisdom session, Dylan sits with Dr Krishna Raju to explore how fear consciousness disrupts health, and how prāṇa, pulse awareness, and subtle Ayurvedic sciences restore balance at the deepest level.

Rather than approaching disease as something external to fight, this conversation returns to a core Ayurvedic truth: health and illness arise first in consciousness. Through stories, clinical insights, and lineage-based knowledge, Dr Raju explains how fear weakens prāṇa, how confidence and understanding support healing, and why Ayurveda prioritises early imbalance long before disease manifests.

This episode weaves together classical Ayurvedic philosophy, pulse wisdom, marma science, and lived experience from generations of Vaidyas, offering a rare glimpse into healing that begins within.

IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:

🌿 Fear as a Root Cause of Disease
🌿 Doṣas, Consciousness & the Inner Churning
🌿 Prāṇa as the Foundation of Healing
🌿 Pulse Awareness as a Healing Practice
🌿 Agni, Ama & the Six Stages of Disease
🌿 Marma Therapy And The Power of Touch
🌿 Sound, Mantra & Subtle Prāṇic Healing
🌿 Seasonal Intelligence & Ritual Reset

ABOUT OUR GUEST: Vaidya A.V. 'Krishna' Raju

Vaidya Krishna Raju is the Director and Head Physician of The Raju Family clinic in Hyderabad, India, where thousands of patients travel from across the world for expert Ayurvedic care, ranging from preventative health to complex and chronic conditions often considered “incurable.”

Renowned for his refined mastery of pulse diagnosis, Dr Raju brings decades of clinical experience and a deep, practical command of classical Ayurveda. He is a specialist in Pañcakarma (Ayurvedic detoxification and rejuvenation), and is widely respected for his encyclopaedic recall of Ayurvedic knowledge and its precise application in real-world cases. In 2022, he received the Health Conclave Award in recognition of his service in successfully treating countless patients across Telangana during the 2020–2022 COVID pandemic.

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SPEAKER_03:

Namamidhanvanda Rimadi Devam Surasura Irvandita Padapadam Loke Jarar Bayam Dutyunasham Data Ramisham Vividho should he know.

SPEAKER_01:

Aspect of consciousness. Mamidan mantra the first Devata. Although Lakshmi came out first of the Samudra Mantana, why is then he for the first Devata?

SPEAKER_03:

Lakshmi is Devata. Definitely, no doubt. But Lakshmi is the goddess of the health. And Dhanvantari is the god of health. So if health, health is the priority, that is why we say more reference to the Dhanvantari.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why it's the first. So Namami Dhanvandim Ari Devam Sura Suray Bandita Parapatam. So the Devatas, the celestial beings, the positive energy and the asuras, the negative energies, they both worship the lotus fate of Danvantari. And that is, I see, like a metaphor of the good and the bad in our life or the positive parts of ourselves.

SPEAKER_03:

That always happens in our life, always happens in our body, always happens in our mind. Nothing but if we see Vata, Vitta and Kafa, if we see Vata is the creator, Vitta is the destroyer and Kafa is the maintainer. So like Brahma Vishnu, Brahma Shiva and Vishnu. So similarly these energies always they are inside our body. When we are balancing that, that is called istialt. That is the most important thing for like something where some mechanical thing is required, some greasing is required. So where some dryness is there, you are putting some oil or you are making something internally to make it oleated. So similarly, the vata is the dryness, pitta is the transformation, and kafa is the maintenance, connectivity, coherence. So those energies, if we see like bad and good energies and all, like churning the milk ocean and all the things, Dhanwandri and all these things came. Similarly, when we churn in our system the pure knowledge, the absolute energy, that consciousness which is coming. That itself is the ultimate bliss. Everybody is trying for that. By knowingly or unknowingly.

SPEAKER_01:

So the asuras and the surahs they're like the doshas also. Yeah. They have they can go out of balance or imbalance. So this is the demons and the celestial beings, the divine beings, which is this shloka chanting, it's within us. It's they came, they have to churn the ocean, which is the field of pure consciousness, to bring up Danvantari, to bring up health. So the negative parts of ourselves, the divine parts, the parts that suicidal thoughts to the extreme, all those things are churning up Danvantari and the doshas. And then sura sure bandita parapanmam, and then loke jaraok bayamrityo. So in this world, jera aging, ruq disease, fear, and mortality. Fear of the dead. Fear of this is all destroyed by Danvantari. So aging, mortality, fear of death, and yes, so and then he's a creator of all the Oshidi. So this is what we invoke, and the herbs, the herbs and medicines.

SPEAKER_03:

So among everything, the fear is the main culprit. During the COVID, we have seen fear is the main thing. When we saw the news, everybody went to the supermarkets to get the food. Because the food will be completely gone. So no transportation and nothing. So everybody kept the food in the houses, stocks. When we have the food, we are having the assurance that, oh, even though if one month if nothing happens, food is there, we can run our house. So similarly, when you know about the health, when you know about how to treat, when you know about how to make yourself good, that assurance you will get always. Simple thing I will tell you. In India, if anybody gets hepatitis, nobody worries. Because they know the simple things, they know that Ayurveda can cure, so they immediately run to the Ayurvedic Vaidya and they will cure it. But whereas in the West, if anybody gets hepatitis, it's a very big thing. Like that, any disease, hepatitis is a very big disease. But when we think it is very small, oh it is easily cured. No need to worry. That assurance itself cures it very well. So when we are studying about any disease, we are thinking this disease is big. When the COVID attack was there, everybody was very much afraid, everybody was frightened, and if anybody gets COVID, they are completely isolated and all. So it is there. If anybody gets the cold, they don't get afraid. So when we have that solution, we are not worried. So for each and every disease, there is a simple solution only. Not big. And when we are thinking about it's it's a big disease, it is not curable, and all those things, then definitely it will become big.

SPEAKER_01:

So for example, cancer. Of course, it's so feared, the C-word. But then you get people who are are very confident and they actually they they feel like they've got it under control or they feel they're natural, particularly those who are taking the natural approach, they'll still have interventions, but they might, they might have some fear, but they're confident at least. They are sure, they have that assurance that what I'm doing is good. I've seen that, and I've seen also with your patients and pain should we share. They have that approach and they're living so healthy, but the PET scan or the CT scan will still show disease in the body, but they're experiencing health.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. We have seen so many cancer patients, very big, like end stage cancers also cured like nothing, and very small, sim small spot. It is very tiny spot, but even that did not cure. So, what it is mainly here still again it is the brain, it is the mind. When you are completely surrendered, when you think that you can get rid of this disease, you should think from your existing. But when you are doubtful, it will rise. I can give you one small example. One of my friends, he was having non-Hotkins lymphoma, and uh it was diagnosed at the age of eight. So at that time they did not diagnose it as non-Hotkins. They they did the surgery and taken out the lymph nodes, and he has got the higher weather treatment only after the surgery, whenever he is getting the uh some inflammation. So he he was using the herbs and he was very good. When he is grown, he did not know that it is non-Hutkins. And after his marriage, he got again the inflammation. Then they found, they said it is the same disease. Earlier it was not done, the biopsy and all those things. So you have to take the chemo and all these things. Then he came to me, he said, your father has treated me. He brought the prescription also, so long one. And he said, He has treated me. I am completely believing you, I will take again the same treatment. Then he did not he did not meet again the doctors and all. Same old prescription he has taken, it's completely subsided. And he did not show it to the doctors and all. But after maybe five or ten years, again there was some swelling. And during the COVID, some because of the flights and all, we could not send him the herbs. So he has ordered something online. What he ordered, he did not get. Oh, some mistake happened. What I have ordered, it did not come, the different one came. And again, at that time his thing was growing. So it was approximately he was completely healthy up to forty, forty-five years. But when he got the doubt, immediately it increased and everybody said you need to take the chemo and all. Then he went to the chemo. Chemo killed him. So that is the main thing. When you are confident that I can get cured, definitely, whatever the big disease, it is cured. And Ayurveda says about the eight big diseases. Among that, cancer is not the big disease, cancer is not included.

SPEAKER_01:

Which was mentioned in Ayurveda.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, heart failures are also not mentioned in that. So these are the things they are making big in the consciousness level. Everybody are afraid of the diseases. So what they say after 30 years, after 40 years, every woman has to do the pap smear to rule out the cervical cancer. So after 40, every year, everybody is doing the pap smear, and if it is negative, they feel lucky. If it is positive, so actually you are thinking about whether I am positive or not. That is quite the wrong theory. You can check, but it is a routine checkup. Don't put much attention on those things. Sometimes it might be just inflammation also. When you feel healthy, when you feel when you are not searching for some disease, if you are searching for some disease, you have already put the seed in your brain. All the diseases are consciousness based. When somebody gets some disease, at the same time, nearby some people also get those diseases because you are thinking of the disease. And in Ayurveda, there are so many diseases mentioned, still they did not arrive, also means so like that when we think about the health, then only the disease consciousness will go away.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

I think was it you or your brother who said there's like 500 types of fever in Ayurveda? I mean, I haven't personally seen this in the Shastras. I mean, jvara, which is fever, is a very big topic in Ayurveda, but 500 types, is that just the different expressions and different dosha combinations and so many things?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, more than 400 jvaras. More than 400 fevers.

SPEAKER_01:

And like there's like what 10 types of diabetes or 20. 20, that's right.

SPEAKER_03:

20 types of diabetes. So even all the diseases can be reversed, but we are maintaining. If anybody gets the diabetes, we are just maintaining, giving some dose and maintaining. So who is getting benefited? The pharmaceuticals.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so we are we just talked about Dantari, who is known as as Krishna J said, Vati is the creator and Kappa is the maintainer, and Gita is the destroyer. So similar to Brahma is the creator, Vishnu as the maintainer, and Shiva is the destroyer. And we are like I just also want to acknowledge everyone here for coming tonight and thank you. And Dr. Raja and Dr. Krishna Rajya and Dr. Ramya Raja for coming just a few hours ago from India. And also acknowledge this Ashram who's been on this wonderful country that has been held for millennia, many, many uh gatherings, I'm sure, in the in the name of health. So I want to honor the adult custodians and and the local land and mob. And also the ashram, and that we are here once again. How many people were here last time, Dr. Krishna, did a speech? Okay, so mostly not. So we happen to be with Balaji, Lord of Ankradeshwala, who's the local temple to the Rajus in India, and it's it's the most visited temple in the world, yes, and the wealthiest temple in the world. And it's a very powerful place, one of our favorite places on earth. Alright, as you also say Krishna G. It's one of your favorite places. Yeah. And um and and this is a form of Vishnu, the the maintainer.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

So I just you mentioned like that maintenance, okay, that sometimes it's not good maintenance because it's like insulin maintaining the blood sugars or medications, but so there's this kind of Dunvantari Vishnu maintenance operator within Aerveda, but there's also Shiva, like Rudra, who's the destroyer, is also known as the healer, a healer in Ayurveda. Can you kind of speak about the two? And I'll just share briefly what I think. Vishnu people are very systematic, conventional, pure. Shiva is just like wild tantric, does you know, not not necessarily beating to such rules.

SPEAKER_03:

What we see in which direction we see, it is it looks like that. Instead of saying destroyer, we can say transformer. Like the agni. You can with the fire, you can burn anything, at the same time, you can cook the food also. So the transformation in our body, transformation in our mind. At the same time, the energy is also from the transformation.

SPEAKER_01:

It's from transformation, yes. So the prana is coming from the agni. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So that shiva's role in healing and in our so Pitta's role in our body is very much. Pitta can digest well after there is one saying, Sarvepiroganam ekakaranam mando analaha, means for all the diseases there is only one cause which is low agni. So when it is not digested well, then the ama gets created. Ama is nothing but the undigested material which becomes a toxic substance that is called amavisha. Wherever it gets settled, there the disease arises. Ayurveda says six stages of disease manifestation. Sanchaya, prakopa, prasaras, dhana samstriya, vyakti bhava and Veda. In the Sanchaya thing, it just gets disturbed, just like when you're boiling the milk, when the heat comes, how the change happens in that milk, that is the sanchaya. Prakopa. In the prakopa, the doshas will be vitiated and it gets excessive. Then prasara, prasara means they move from their place. When you boil more, the milk is coming up. That is called prasara, third stage. Where it comes out of the bowl, so it moves from their place and settles down in some other area. Then Vyaktive Hava. Where they settles down, they show the their characteristics. So the disease characteristics are known at the stage of Vyaktivhava, means fifth stage of the thing is showing you the disease actual characteristics. But we can know at the first stage when the doshas are in the sun chair. So that is what is the beauty of the Ayurveda.

SPEAKER_01:

So the topic today was about prana. And like your your niece and your cousin Avni Raju once said, which I really like when she started speaking about marma, she said, you know, we rely on, even in Navedu, we rely to go to Panchakarama and we rely to on the herbs, but we've lost this capacity to heal ourselves with even herbs, just with our hands, with our prana. And you mentioned the agni is what kind of transforms aspects within our physiology to generate prana. So how can we how can we generate prana and not just physically, mentally, everything? Because that's what's going to overcome the amma, right? As well.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes. Prana means the life. So wherever the life is required to sustain the body, definitely we require the prana. So the prana is there, which is completely circulating all over the body. So we need to increase this prana. Then only wherever the any disturbance is happening in our body that can be treated. Body has our own pharmacy. Whatever we give the food, whatever we do the procedures and all these things, they activate that pharmacy. Usually, if you get a small fever, what happens? The body gets heated and doesn't allow the food. If you are taking good rest, it will subside, usually. Or else a little sweating is required. So because that is also blocked, all the Sveda Srutas. So the internal agni is more circulating in the body. So when we break that thing, the fever is cured. Just even sipping the hot water also can completely cure the fever. So when we are thinking about the prana, what we are increasing that prana inside, there are so many techniques. One of the best techniques is the pranayama, and another technique is the pulse. And one more technique is the yoga. Yoga in the sense not the just asanas, the meditation. So when we are doing these things, automatically the prana and the distribution of the prana will definitely get activated, get proper distribution. If at all we have any pain or anything, just if you see your own pulse, definitely it will calm down. If you are in such a bad state of anxiety or anything, just sit for some time and feel your own pulse calmly, then definitely it will come down. Even for headaches, even any pain. What we are doing, we are doing nothing. Just we are sending the conscious with our consciousness, we are thinking that it should come down. That is what you are sending through the pulse all over the body.

SPEAKER_01:

So a lot of the time when people feel their pulse, like when you teach, we're not thinking of anything really. So, can you explain more the mechanics of how feeling your pulse? Will activate prana to go to the place of the body that needs healing?

SPEAKER_03:

Unknowingly, what you are thinking that you are inducing into your pulse. So that is why when you are learning the self-pulse, immediately first you have to think for the health only. Innocently, when you are seeing, you will know the Vatapita and Kafa and their gunas and all the things. But when you are searching for the diseases, that would be a problem. But later in the stages, you can do that thing. And when you have such an issue, for example, you are taking the pulse before your food, what you are doing, you are activating your acne. You are saying that you are going to have the food. So that information is gone and the acne gets activated. So when you are learning that, when you are doing whatever the work, at the time when you are doing, you are putting more attention, you are putting more prana into your entire body and mind. And to increase the prana effect, to increase the what is prana is nothing but the life. So pranayama means you are increasing the prana, the ayama. Ayama is nothing but the life, the span. So when you are doing the pranayama, you are inducing the prana into the body. In Sharangdara Samkita, one of the great treatis, it said that when we are breathing, the air, which is called prana, is entering into the inverted lotus, that is what is the heart, and which also goes into the lung. The space it said akasha. And from there it is going into the inverted lotus, and from there it is distributed all over the body and giving the energy and making all the metabolic activities. So when we are practicing the pranayama, definitely we are increasing our energy levels, we are increasing our all the metabolic activities.

SPEAKER_01:

So this is in Arivara, the king of the senses is Sparsha Indriya, the sense of touch. So we I feel we're not so familiar with that. Like for the example of eating food, before we know we can smell the food, it activates our agni. We can see the food, it activates, we can smell it, but you're saying even through feeling your pulse, you're activating the agni. And that's similar with everything. Like if you speak to someone on the phone, we can tell if they have a cold or if they're feeling anxious or if they're happy or sad. But pulse is even a greater way to understand what's happening with someone. We just have lost that sparsha, is that right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. The pulse is the one which gives the whole knowledge. You can learn means you can get the knowledge of how the health, health of the body, mind, even it is so deep science, and few people in in India they are practicing also. By seeing the pulse, they can say, what is wrong in your home in the vast du. Even that can also be said. It is a very big science actually. And like my great great great grandfathers, they used to see, right now we are seeing with the fingers, but they used to see with the strings. Because where we are living, which is ruled by the Muslims. So during the olden days, nobody can touch the ladies, especially the Muslim ladies, even if it is the Vaidya or anybody. So they used to tie the three strings according to those moments, they used to diagnose the disease.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I was not. But I was just curious, like, can you share, because I've witnessed so many profound things with seeing you in consultation, including feeling people's master. Can you share like what is a memory for you, whether it's your brother, your father, or your grandfather, that when you saw them feel that in someone's pulse, that it just stands out as a memory for you. Has anything come to mind?

SPEAKER_03:

Actually, my brother was very much associated with my grandfather. He was, I I did not see my grandfather. So he was seeing treating the people and all, and somebody was declared a small boy, was dead. So they were taking him to the graveyard. So my grandfather checked him and put some drops in the nose and in the eyes, and the boy got up. So since that day, he was very much fascinated to learn Ayurveda. So at that time it was just the practice, family practice, because now they were teaching, very few places they were teaching or something like that. But since my brother, it is the universities taught the subject and all. So we learn from the family and also from the universities.

SPEAKER_01:

So for us, it's it's such a feeling our own pulse is such a good way to bring prana into the body. And we don't necessarily have to have an intention or think it will naturally flow to where it's needed.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that is why. When you are feeling your pulse, whatever you are thinking that you are inducing. So before meditation and after meditation, if you feel the pulse, definitely increasing the prana.

SPEAKER_01:

And how you said we're we're searching for health. So it's like if you know many people here have learned to feel the pulse. We don't like want to be feeling in that disease imbalance. We want to keep feeling until it feels to that more balanced state, that summer.

SPEAKER_03:

Just when you feel the subtleness of the pulse, then automatically it creates that settlement, it creates that sattva. And that is why before the meditation and after the meditation, if you are doing, you will not feel anything wrong. And even though if you are in very much chaotic situation, or if you are very much anxious, if you are very much doing anything, or even in the big anger, just if you sit and feel your pulse, definitely it will come down to ninety percent down or at least fifty percent down. Because it is the it is the intention of coming down. You are not doing your pulse to increase your anger because your mind is thinking to reduce it.

SPEAKER_01:

So another way to give prana to the body is marma. Yeah. Now marma is a big topic, that's why we're doing three nights on it here. But I'll just say like the actual word marma also means like secretive. It's is it related to the word gopya or yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Marma is the secret, marma is the death point, or marma is the very effective point, also.

SPEAKER_01:

So it means marma is just for those who don't know, it's where acupuncture points come from. So it's these vital points of concentrated prana in the physiology.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, actually marma was practiced long ago during the Buddha period. Because during the Buddha period, it was completely more propagated about means the ahimsa, non-violence. So at that time there were so many surgeries were also happened. So if any surgery gets unsuccessful, the vaitya used to be punished. So at that time, instead of the surgeries, all these parasurgical things, like even the Nadi, even the Jyotish, even the there are so many other things like marma and all these things were practiced. So wherever the Buddha practice is more, wherever the Buddhists are more, during those areas still they practice acupressure, acupuncture, and all these things. And mainly the marma practice was means marma is taught to the vaidyyas in the wars. Because in the wars they used to attack on those marma points. Usually there are so many marmas. Among that, one out eight marmas are the main marmas. There are hundred and eight marmas are the main marmas. Among them, a few marmas, if you hit, immediately they will die. If you hit on the some other marmas, they will be all always painful. And some marmas they die slowly, day by day. And some marmas they get disabled. So for all these different different types of marmas are used to attack the other persons. Because the energy you are stopping there. So for making it better, making them better, the marma treatment was practiced. Very few people were taught that because marma knowledge is very dangerous. You can practice in a good way, you can practice in a bad way. So, what we do in the marmas, we just activate those marmas, then the energy flow is very good. The obstruction can be taken out. And the flow of energy when it is more good, it improves the health, it improves longevity, and it improves the all the coherence and connectivity with the other parts of the body.

SPEAKER_01:

So I've heard marma is taught here and there, and different traditions and different people practice different precautions around it because it's so dangerous and powerful. Like Rajji Krishna Ji's older brother says, Don't mess with the marmas. And I hear a story of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who promoted so much of Vedic knowledge, meditation especially, but also Ayurveda, Jyotish. I think it was maybe either in the 80s or the 90s in Holland. He immediately at midnight did a big conference and he said, calling everyone in, and he said, no more practicing marma. Yes. And and I think it was only three years ago or so about that your family then started sharing it again. Like Rajuj said, okay, teach Marma, and actually in Australia was the first time to receive. I'd love to hear your kind of perspective of that story and why Maharishi did that and how the knowledge, because it now's the time we're doing three-night marma course here. Like that wouldn't have happened five years ago because the Rajus would never teach that. So I just want to hear from your perspective how the marma knowledge has evolved and how the need of the time has also evolved.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Because the marma, when we are teaching means in the Maharashi movement, when they teach the marma knowledge, everybody is taking in, everybody is doing their own methods. For example, if I say this is a marma, you need to activate it slowly and all, then when you know about that point, after knowing that point, the ten people they perceive that knowledge different ten different ways, and they want to do the experiment. So they will press or they will put something, and some people they do you put some grain on that and make some more pressure and all. So all these other practices, especially when it is taught to the abhyanga. During the abhyanga they do a specific, if you are not doing the proper pressure and not proper application on that, it might do the bad thing also. Instead of unlocking, instead of doing the good flow, if you are blocking it, it creates the bad effect. So that is why immediately Marsha said, no, that cannot be taught.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's very powerful, I see to unblock the channels, which allows the flow of prana. Yeah. And there's a I've from what I've seen, is it can really help people who are having this blockage and can't allow healing to happen for whatever reason, mentally, physically. Yeah. I just share one story recently. I was with someone who went to emergency hospital because of so much pain, and they gave morphine and it wasn't doing the job. But then, under the right circumstance, under the guidance of the Vedia, because they knew about marma and they learned under the Rajas, he practiced, and that actually was the only thing. Even I think three doses of the morphine intravenus did not help her pain. But the marma did. And you know I'm doing that, Krishna Jean. So uh very, very good because it completely calmed, and I guess it did allow that that prana to flow and allow the body to relax. So we will be doing three nights of pulse, marma, some self-eyed bjango or so, maybe. We will see what happens. And the idea is to it's an intimate group in not in this room, in the yoga hall. And we will be getting different practices, feeling the pulse and seeing how that influences, and then going to do homework at home and do your practice and then coming back and reporting. And it's it will be Krishna G will be giving different advice and recommendations and maybe personal things if required. Personal things to do yourself. Because the point is to we have the capacity to heal ourselves, and marma and pulse is a very big, big way, and it's it's very sustainable. You don't need any energy, you don't need electricity. You have your hand. So it's very knowledge that is coming now, and yes. And also, banana treatment, yeah, that's not touch therapy at all. It's sound therapy, mainly. So another of the senses, but that's prana, very much prana. Yes, yes. So can you explain prana from the level of sound? And sound with medicine.

SPEAKER_03:

Everything is means every movement or everything is from the vibration. So actually the evolution also is from the vibration. Each and every sound has its own vibration. So that vibration, when it is there in the absolute silence, that is what is the mantra. So when we are doing that thing, it works in the completely settled consciousness. So when we are taking that, especially with the banana treatment, it is mainly with those mantras, the vibrations. So it completely enters into the whole system and activates the prana in the deeper and deeper levels. Especially when you take the banana treatment, you will rest a lot, so many people. Some people they get a lot of energy also. So it's really does wonders. That is what is the vibration. Even when you do the deeper and deeper meditation, the same thing it happens.

SPEAKER_01:

So you said banana treatment has an affinity for the reproductive system. So you said the prana comes into the heart and then distributes throughout the body, but obviously the reproductive system is also a very concentrated site of prana because that's where we make life. Yes. So is that that why the banana treatment goes so much to the it's mainly works on the endocrinal system as well as the reproductive system.

SPEAKER_03:

And even so many people they take the banana treatment for different, different reasons. Not only for the reproductive thing, they will take the different intentions, sankalpa. So that happens. Even for some people, even in India, some young girls, they come for the when they do the sankalpa, they write, we see, they want some good job. So with that's an intention they will take. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Some women in Australia, I know they've done it for finding a partner. Yeah. And it's helped when they've been single. Some of my friends. Meet at the nana treatment. Although it's in silence. Okay. Nana, you have questions.

SPEAKER_00:

I was just wondering on the mechanics of prana with meditation. Because obviously, when we meditate, we do excite so much we actually tend to not breathe very much at all. But the prana's in the vibration of the sound, the mantra. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And that the prana is ayama, like it's extending the breath as well, like less breathing. One of my yoga teachers used to say, breathe less, think less, stress, eat less, stress less. And when you were talking about prana and like activating our prana, I just had a thought of like particularly one patient with an eating disorder, and just other people who are completely depleted. Like they have, they have so they're they're maybe they're emaciated, they're dattusa kshya, they have they have low tissues, and they really need to build, I guess, gradually. Like it's not easy for them to build, and I guess it starts with something like pulse can be the best thing, or marma, because it's too much to take food or to try build quickly.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's true. Or some of the when you are doing a byanga, you are activating all the varnotate marmas.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. It's another important thing to say because you don't have to have a marm therapy to activate the marmas, you can do it through so many other ways. Yeah. So in Ayurveda, from what I understand, in India there's so many Vedic festivals. Like every mostly every day you can find a festival.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But Ayurveda really only talks about one festival, and it's Navaratri. Now we're not gonna go a lot because we we we still have time, but I just want to introduce it because it's coming out, which are the nine nights of the goddess, which comes every equinox, twice a year, the two main ones. And obviously, in Aurora dinnacharya daily routine is a big thing. Ritucharya, seasonal routine is a big thing. So equinox is like even more sophisticated and perhaps more important than the seasonal changes. So this is starting, I believe it's the 20th or 23rd. 22nd. 22nd starts of September. So I just want to at least take a moment to explain it so that you all have the opportunity to utilize this significant seasonal change or this change of the sun.

SPEAKER_03:

The time is divided into so many divisions day, night, week, fortnight, month, and six months and one year like that. So among that, one year is divided into six rutus, means every two months is considered as one season. So when each season changes, there will be some changes in our doshas. So to compensate that, we need to do specific procedures, like at least like some fasting or some special herbs or something like that. According to that, the festivals have been designed. So during this festival you have to eat this. During this festival, you have to eat this, during this festival you have to do this. So at least during the festivals, you have to do the abhyanga and udvartana.

SPEAKER_01:

Abhyanga is oil massage and udvartana is cleansing with the powers after the oil massage to then shower.

SPEAKER_03:

So all these things you need to practice. So every two months it is very difficult because there are so many things and all. So at least yearly two times, if you practice that, because one half is the hot season, the second half is the cold season. So if we balance that, if we see in the doshas vata, pitta and kaffa, if we try to reduce vata, the kafa increases. If we try to reduce the kaffar, the vata increases. So vata and kaffa are quite opposite. So making it balance. So like that, cold and the hot. Two seasons, the big changes happens in that nine days. That is the combination of two seasons. So during that period, the agni is low, and we need to do specific rituals. So light food and the daily routine practice, if we do during that nine days, along with the some rituals, the God. Some good meditation, good puja, good mantras, and all those things to activate our whole system. So that is why the digestion will be improved and the routine will be improved during those nine days. One is the upcoming 22nd onwards, and the one is in the April, March, April. So yearly two times. These are the main Navaratris we follow.

SPEAKER_01:

There's also two Navarratris on the solstice. Like are that those are the two main, and there are two ones on the solstice. Summer solstice and winter solstice.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, there are actually six Navaratris for the six seasons.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Yeah. Because I've heard of five, but six. There you go. Okay. Alright.

SPEAKER_03:

So among these six, these two are very important. So they practice that very regularly.

SPEAKER_01:

So if you don't do adjunctu or whatever practice you want to do every day, these nine days of the day. Not exactly making up for the year, but at least you get like a dose.

SPEAKER_03:

So in India, some people they consider during this Navaratri the new year. And some people they consider during the other Navaratri the new year. So they follow that.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean Muslims do a similar thing, like on Ramadan. Yeah. They will then smoke for 40 days and.

SPEAKER_03:

Usually they don't smoke and drink.

SPEAKER_01:

I've met some. I've met some sleeping taxi driver. He's like, yeah, I'm not, you know, smoking and not doing these bad habits that I usually do for 40 days. So it's like the annual dose of reset. Okay.