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How to Heal a Hernia Naturally & Without Surgery | George Hirst #150
Ever been told surgery is your only option for a hernia—and felt deep down there must be another way?
In this episode, Dylan sits down with George Hirst, founder of Comfort Truss, who healed his inguinal hernia naturally after being told it was impossible. George shares the physical, emotional, and practical steps that took him from a painful two-golf-ball bulge to living symptom-free—no mesh, no surgery.
Together they unpack what a hernia really is, why it develops, and the five core factors that often drive it—poor digestion, weak deep-core muscles, pelvic misalignment, emotional tension, and lack of mobility. You’ll learn how to strengthen the transverse abdominis and pelvic floor safely, the role of proper digestion in reducing pressure, and why awareness and breath are key to true recovery.
Whether you’re facing surgery, living with a hernia, or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers grounded hope and actionable tools to help you rebuild strength from the inside out.
IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
💪 Understanding What a Hernia Really Is
💪 Root Causes of Hernia Development
💪 Strengthening the Core & Healing Naturally
💪 The Role of the Hernia Belt
💪 Diet & Digestion for Hernia Healing
💪 Emotional & Energetic Healing
💪 Practical Steps for Prevention & Recovery
ABOUT OUR GUEST: George Hirst
George Hirst is the founder of Comfort Truss, a company born from his own journey of healing an inguinal hernia naturally. When surgery was presented as his only option, George set out to find another way - developing methods to strengthen his body and support healing while documenting his process to help others do the same.
Frustrated by the bulky, painful belts available, he designed a lightweight, low-profile truss that offered genuine comfort and confidence in daily life. What began as a personal solution has now supported tens of thousands of people worldwide - whether pre-surgery, post-surgery, or pursuing natural recovery.
Through his videos, online program, and the Comfort Truss community, George continues to empower people to take an active, informed, and natural approach to hernia healing.
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This time on the Vital Vader podcast. I think the principles we're going to talk about is diet and exercise and pranayama or breathing exercises.
SPEAKER_07:So diet causing gas bloating or constipation, weakness in those three muscles, poor pelvic posture, and then poor mobility in your hips, hamstrings, and back, and uh repressed emotions, mostly anger.
SPEAKER_02:Constant bloating or indigestion and constant what we call undigested material can sit in an area and put more pressure onto other weak tissue like the muscle and having certain channels that are blocked and strained and a buildup of pressure, like this gas. This is kind of what we call vata. These are all kind of contributing. Welcome to the Vital Veda podcast. I am your host, Dylan Smith. I'm an Ayuroveta health practitioner as well as a holistic health educator and someone who is feeling very deep in my heart about you. Yes, you, because you probably have a hernia if you've joined this podcast episode and you want to heal it naturally. Or you may be a health practitioner, physician, or someone who's just very compassionate about your fellow patients, clients, friends, family that has a hernia and you want to help them. But overall, I feel you, I've been in your position, particularly with this podcast episode where we talk about inguinal hernias, one of the hernia, but we do speak about all the hernia. And for those who have a hernia and want to heal it naturally, this podcast episode is for you. It's with George Hurst, who has gone through the process himself. He will share with you. And years later, he went from having a hernia the size of two golf balls in his inguinal canal in the pubic area. And years later, he does not have one at all. So I know you'll get something benefit from this episode if you implement the strategies he does. This is not a quick fix in this episode. It's not just okay, here's the answer. Do this. Healing a hernia is something that requires diligence and devotion to yourself and to your health and your physical health as well as emotional, spiritual. We're going to get into all this. This is a taste of George's offerings and George's wisdom of plenty of research practically as well as theoretically, on himself as well as out there in the world. This is a taste. And if you want to have a full proactive protocol to hernia intervention, you'll have to check out George's program online, which is really comprehensive and a great tool to have. A great like having an encyclopedia on inguinal hernias through an online program of multiple videos and resources. And you can check that out in the show notes. The practical approach to hernia intervention. And if you use the code Vital Vader as one word, you'll get a discount on that. Also, if you want to check out his hernia belts, the comfort trust, you'll also get a discount with Vital Vader. So I I really hope you get something out of this episode and that it gives you tools or motivation or inspiration to healing hernia's naturally. If you've got any stories to share of healing your hernia naturally or the journey of it in general, it doesn't have to be all positive. It can be the struggles, the challenges, the downfalls. Please share it. And if you go to Michaelbetter.com.au website and you hit the podcast section and you find this episode of Healing Hernas Naturally, that has show notes. That has more resources that you might even find within the podcast episode itself. So check out the show notes, check out George's programme, and that is all in the show notes of this episode. You can find the links for that. Enjoy. What if you were told surgery was your only option for your hernia, but you decided to prove them wrong. I stumbled across George Hearst, probably the way that many people do, is searching the internet for natural cure to hernia or natural treatment or natural maintenance protocol. And in his late 30s, George found himself in that exact spot of doctors told him surgery was the only fix, but being a natural living guy, he wanted another way. He set out to heal it himself. He documented every step so others could follow along. And one of his first breakthroughs was showing or figuring how to keep the hernia supported so he could keep living his life without fear and doing all the sports and activities that you do, which is surfing, muay thai boxing. I don't know what you're doing these days, but very active guy. So I'm very honored to have you and grateful for you joining us, uh George. I'm actually surprised. I thought this would be a more niche podcast episode and kind of just be with kind of medical professionals and students to help their their their patients, but also those who have hernias. But I did an Instagram story yesterday of I'm recording a podcast with George Hurst, and anyone has questions on her healing herniers naturally, let me know. And we got a flood of questions. We have so many questions.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_02:And it it just it really made me realize how common hernias are, and they really are. I mean, globally, like I think it's uh men. Well, men are about 85% of cases, first of all, so it's a six to one ratio of women. And in Australia, there's about 90 hernia surgeries a year, 90,000 surgeries a year. Uh half of those are inguinal hernias. So inguinal in the in the groin area uh are definitely the most common. And um it it it also is common in uh those under one year old, babies under one, and then also adults over 50. So welcome to the Vital Vader Podcast, George. Excited to share this. And what I want to cover today, just to give a kind of summary and what I intend to cover, first of all, just to define what is a hernia. I'd like to go into the different hernias, the causes of hernia, and then we can talk about treatment and maintenance and prevention, and also explore all the all the treatments, including surgery, that are very common. So, first of all, you have experienced an inguinal hernia. You started your juju videos, as I said, uh I followed you. Uh, that was a while ago, right? And so tell us just a bit about your journey.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, basically, like you said in the opening, I just um an all-natural guy, and I found myself with a hernia one day. I I actually I didn't feel it actually pop out, but I noticed it in the shower. So, you know, I was just in the shower and I looked down and I saw this lump and I was like, oh my god, like I thought I had cancer or something, you know. Um, and then I started doing some research, realized it really quickly that it was an inguinal hernia and that it was reducible. So I was able to push it in pretty easily. I could just take two fingers. It didn't, there wasn't a lot of pressure pushing out on it, but it was a pretty big lump that would stick out and it would it would go back in really easy at first, and then it would stay in for a little while, maybe a couple hours, and then every once in a while it would pop back out and I would kind of feel a little bit of pressure in that in that area. But then when I would they would when I would push it back in, it would stay in for a while. I started doing research and I realized that the standard is hernia surgery, or they prescribe watchful waiting, which is basically waiting until it gets to a point where it's so bad that you need surgery or surgery. So for me, uh you know, I I wasn't about to just sit around and do nothing. That's just not my nature. I'm a proactive person, so I wanted to figure out ways that I can possibly get out of having to get surgery and try and heal it naturally, even though everything that I was reading online was saying that there was that that it's impossible, basically.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's a common thing you hear. Uh, I've even associated with um other people who have been yoga teachers, including one very well-renowned yoga teacher, and and he kind of asked his teacher if he could heal it and he tried, but he couldn't. And it's a lot of it's it's I mean, to be honest, uh from my uh from my experience and from what I've perceived, like most people, it's it's quite challenging and to to heal it naturally. And I've even met people who are like experienced yoga teachers or physiotherapists, even who who've had trouble. But first of all, I think we just let's just define what is a hernia. So for it's I believe it's when the muscle is tear there's a tear in the muscle or it becomes weak, and then there's some tissue that protrudes out of that and sticks out. So, like when you said you have a bulge or a bump, it's basically like fatty tissue or part of the intestines or uh some organ coming out. That's why you push it back in, it goes in. So there's a few different types of hernias. The most common is the inguinal hernia in the groin, which you experienced. Then there is also femoral, ephemeral hernia, right? So could you explain that's also like obviously the thigh area, the the difference between those two?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, basically the the inguinal hernia it would come out between the crease, above above the crease between your thigh and your abdomen.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_07:If it was a femoral hernia, it would come out below the crease of your on the actual thigh, right? Yeah, so it would come out more towards the thigh than the than up in the abdomen area above that crease. Okay, that's a very and then there's also there's also two different two different types of inguinal hernias. There's a direct hernia and an indirect hernia, which kind of have different uh presentations also.
SPEAKER_01:What are those?
SPEAKER_07:Um, so basically the the indirect hernia is one that usually would eventually make its way into the testes. A direct hernia normally doesn't make its way into the testes, so it would it would stay up above the pubic bone most most of the time.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So that's kind of sagging and protruding quite low so that it goes into the testicles. And that right, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:It's it starts off actually a little bit higher, and it and it actually pushes into the inguinal canal and through and down into the testes, where the the direct turnia doesn't start off as high and go actually through the inguinal canal, it actually starts off lower and just pushes the weakness in the muscle in the muscle outward in that area, so it doesn't actually go through the inguinal canal into the testes.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So correct me if I'm wrong, but I I remember one patient telling me is it's quite the the one that goes into the testicles is painful, right? Or I mean it can be.
SPEAKER_07:Mine wasn't. Mine was indirect hernia, and it mine wasn't painful at all. I never had any pain, it was just a feeling of pressure.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:So, but I do talk to people all the time that say that they do have pain with them also. So it can it can go both ways.
SPEAKER_02:And then, of course, the other hernias, there's umbilical hernia, hiatal hernia. So would you just um so the umbilical is is coming out of the belly button. I mean, you can see that in people, it's right if you look at their belly buttons, it's very clear. And that I believe is also the one that's very common in uh babies.
SPEAKER_07:Uh yeah, both types are actually pretty common in babies, the inguinal hernia and the the belly button hernia, but I'm not sure which is more prevalent in babies, but I know that they they do both both, they get both of them.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, and then and then the hiatal hernia is of course the hiatus, which is the upper stomach. And obviously, we're gonna talk in depth of inguinal hernias, but how much and then you've you've created a product as a a trust belt to support people, which is fantastic, and you've created even I only realized yesterday, you have a whole course and kind of program and and workbook on on to heal it naturally. How much does this apply to umbilical hernias and hiatal hernias?
SPEAKER_07:Not at all. It's it's strictly just for inguinal hernias. All right, great. Okay, because that's it, that's what I had. So, like the in in my program, I just share my experience and what I did and what and my findings through all my research of all the commonalities between people with inguinal hernias and put all that information together in an easy-to-follow way. Um so the other types of hernias, I don't, I really don't know much about at all because I never had to deal with them.
SPEAKER_02:So and I think it's I think it's still valuable for people to listen because I think the principles on what we're gonna talk about is diet and exercise and pranayama or breathing exercises could certainly be applied to a different part of the anatomy when dealing with an umbilical or hiatal hernia. I think a lot of the things you'll hear today is going to be valuable and maybe not a direct um a direct protocol to follow, but although we I think you can apply the same principles of healing and inguinal hernia to other parts of the body. So I encourage people to continue to listen who who do experience other hernia is then inguinal. Um so you mentioned it doesn't feel like pain, so or for for you it didn't, sorry. And some people it does, and it's a pressure, it's kind of a tugging effect it can feel. Um, of course, the bulge is there. So you mentioned you didn't feel it come out at the time. Do you have an idea of what caused your hernia and what are the common causes of hernia in people?
SPEAKER_07:Well, I think the original way that I got the hernia, the the thing that caused the weakness to be there for the hernia to actually form was I I used to fish offshore a lot, and I was I was be on my boat, and it would be, you know, we'd be riding through choppy seas, and I realized after I got the hernia, I didn't notice this before I got the hernia, but afterwards, I realized that as we were going through choppy seas, I was constantly smashing the bottom of the steering wheel because I had a leaning post, so I was standing up driving, and I was constantly smashing the bottom of the steering wheel right on right above my pelvis, right where the hernia ended up popping out from. So I think that that constant smashing is what made the weakness come up so that the hernia could actually form.
SPEAKER_02:Very interesting. And what do you what do you see?
SPEAKER_07:And I had no idea that it wasn't hard enough to even for me to realize that it was happening. It was just a subtle kind of bumping of the of the steering wheel. But after I got the hernia, I went out and I went, you know, I went on the boat and and realized really quickly, like, wow, it's it's hit me right in that exact spot. And it probably happened a hundred times that day. So I'm pretty sure that that has had that has an effect.
SPEAKER_02:That's a very direct response or direct correlation. I I've seen clients and I I feel a common thing is they just poor posture and poor exercise regime, even though they're exercising, they're maybe not protecting certain muscles, and there's kind of a weak spot. And this in Ayurvedo, we we have uh something called like vata, which is like the energy of movement and nervous system, and it's kind of like excessive movement without being stabilized and anchored into whatever movement you're doing, not just physical movement, but this can be like movement of the bowels, movement of the urine, just moving from place to place, and without this anchor, the body can kind of have this weak spot open up, which we call kavyaguna. I'm just saying these Sanskrit terms for the for the Ayurveda people listening, but this weakness manifests, and then the the tissue, particularly the muscle, becomes weak, and then the digestion also can have an impact on this because constant bloating or constant indigestion and constant what we call ama undigested material can sit in an area and put more pressure onto a other weak, uh other weak tissue like the muscle, and having certain channels that are blocked and strained and uh build up of pressure like this gas. This is kind of covata, this air element. These are all kind of contributing. And so I'm curious what what you think of that, and also what you've seen in the many people you've communicated with in terms of course.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a link between that. I think the hitting the steering wheel on the boat came after all of the other things that were already in place to like kind of as precursors for the Hermeo to form. And what I found out through talking to once I started writing on my blog and and doing YouTube videos, talking to thousands of people, I realized that it was mainly, well, we all had five things in common. What I figured out was a diet that causes gas bloating or constipation, excess gas bloating. I mean, all diets cause some kind of gas and bloating, but this is excess gas bloating. There's a weakness in the transverse abdominis and the inner and outer obliques, which are the muscles that make up the inguinal canal.
SPEAKER_02:Which just to clarify, those those are super important muscles. Can we just explain a bit more of where they are? Then they're not the abs, like the six-pack, they're the transverse, so they're horizontally around that area, right?
SPEAKER_07:Right. Yeah, exactly. Like the transverse abdominus basically makes up a corset. It goes all the way from your pelvis to the bottom of your ribs, from the front of your body all the way around to your spine. So it's it's kind of like a built-in weight belt that you that that is the under the undermost sheath of muscle in your abdomen. And that's also the wall of the inguinal canal that goes right down to the pubic bone.
SPEAKER_02:And the inguinal canal starts where and ends to the pubic bone.
SPEAKER_07:Um basically it's just above the pubic bone. It's about maybe th it could be three inches diagonally up from the corner of your pubic bone along that crease between your leg and your and your abdomen.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_07:So the the inner and outer obliques actually come down and form part of it as well. So it's those three muscles really that are making up the walls of the inguinal canal.
SPEAKER_01:Right. So, yes, weak, weakness in those areas. Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. So yeah, it was weakness in those uh diet causing gas bloating or constipation, weakness in those three muscles, poor pelvic posture, which mine for me it was anterior pelvic tilt that I didn't even realize I had until I started looking into all this. And then poor mobility in your hips, but mostly your hips, hamstrings, and back, which mine was terrible. I could barely sit, you know, sit get to a squat position to even get into a chair, let alone be to be able to deep squat. I was not able to do that at all. And and the last one being uh repressed emotions, mostly anger, which has it has a lot to do with your with your psoas muscle, the tightness of your psoas muscle. And there's a lot of stuff behind that. What I what I found out was um uh tension myoneural syndrome, and that's basically repressed emotions that your your body is trying to protect your conscious mind from feeling certain things like extreme anger, so it creates a defense mechanism for your brain to focus on rather than to allow those thoughts to come to consciousness. Um, and there's a lot of that from a lot of people that suffer from that that I that I've talked to about hernia. So that so it was really interesting, just and and this all happened just kind of through organic conversation with lots of people and trying to figure out what what my my issues were, what their issues were, and kind of just putting all this together over time, I realized that those are the five main commonalities that we all had. So I figured if if we all have those same commonalities, then that must be the root causes of the hernia. And if I can do something to counteract those root causes, then I should be able to fix the hernia.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome. So your journey, like how long have you been doing YouTube videos and kind of where are you at now? Because I love how some of your videos also you talk about, oh, I used to think and practice this, but now I've kind of changed my mind. So you've had that real uh open mind and flexibility. And you've also done, I I like seeing that in practitioners who have been doing something for a number of years and for long enough to see the trends and to also experiment with the trends and maybe even promote the trend, like what you did, but then actually realized hold on, I realized it's actually not the best.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, there was there was probably about four or five years of just complete trial and error, trying different things, trying different workouts, different diets, different whatever I can. I was just soaking up information as much as I possibly could and taking what I would hear from here or or from this person or that person and just trying all kinds of stuff. And most of it didn't work. I made no progress at all for about four years, and actually the hernia was getting worse if over time, um, until all of a sudden everything just kind of clicked for me when I when I figured out those five root causes. It just kind of clicked, and I was able to just put a plan in place to fix those, and then that's when everything started getting better. And within that time, it was only about six months until my hernia went from the size of two golf balls together to about the size of an MM. It was really, it got to be just a little tiny bump. And um, I was shocked actually at how fast it happened because of all the years of trial and error with no progress at all. And then it took about another six months after that point to get to a point where it didn't pop out anymore. And at this now, where I'm I'm completely asymptomatic. I don't my hernia doesn't pop out, I don't have any pressure, nothing. I don't I don't have to wear a hernia belt anymore. I don't have I don't hold back in any of my activities. I'm able to surf, ride motocross, do mue thai. Basically, I live like I didn't ever have a hernia. So wow.
SPEAKER_02:And how long have that been for since you haven't had a pop-out?
SPEAKER_07:Um it's been a couple years now, probably three years, maybe.
SPEAKER_04:Fantastic. Great.
SPEAKER_07:I start losing track of time because it's been it's been so long that I've been, you know, of the the journey's kind of been so long that I I lose track of exactly how long things were, but yeah, it's been probably about three years.
SPEAKER_04:That's wonderful.
SPEAKER_02:And just to clarify, the the the treatment approach we're gonna get into is basically to have the hernia stay in and not protrude so that the muscle wall can heal and close or the tear in the muscle. Right. How easy is it for a muscle tear to close and repair?
SPEAKER_07:That's it, that's the thing. It's it in my research, I never actually found evidence that there was a tear when someone has a hernia, unless there was some sort of blunt trauma from outside. Usually it's the the deep inguinal ring or the superficial inguinal ring are elongated because you already have a hole there to begin with from when you're a baby. It's actually your inguinal canal is where your testes start out when you're a baby and they actually drop through those rings after you're born. So everybody has that hole that's considered, I guess, a weakness in the muscle. And over time, all that excess internal pressure and poor posture and things like that, it ends up elongating those holes and allowing the intestinal contents for the abdominal contents to push through those holes. So I haven't been able to find anywhere that there's actually tear.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_07:So I think I think that's a bit of misinformation that is used to scare people.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_07:Or maybe I'm wrong and and and it actually does happen, but I in my research I wasn't able to find any incidences of that. So also can it be so it's more so it's more about strengthening the muscle, right? And and getting the intestinal content or the abdominal contents to stay behind the wall rather than to actually fix a tear in the muscle.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right. Okay. So rather than having a kind of flubby, weak intestinal uh sorry, the muscle is fluby and weak, so that it can actually hold it, can be more firm and and hold the intestines. Right. Yeah, that that feels more right than a tear. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And so the conventional approach, of course, is surgery. And what I commonly hear from people is it's a very straightforward surgery, and it's successful. People don't seem to have really caring things. Would you agree with that?
SPEAKER_07:Um, no, because I every day I talk to people who have their lives ruined by surgery just in because of the business that I'm in of you know, with the hernia belts. And um there are not and I'm not saying that surgery is not a good, it's not right for for some people. For some people it can be, and and it could be great, and they could have surgery and never have any issues. But when it goes wrong, it goes really wrong, like nerve damage and post-operative pain, and you know, things that are way worse than what they were dealing with before when they had hernia. Um, so that's what kind of turned me off to even have the idea of getting surgery. It was that kind of thing. I didn't want to have to deal with because the symptoms of the hernia for me weren't that bad, other than just the lump being there and it being on my conscience all the time, that I could have an emergency, or you know, my intestines were gonna blow out and you know, I was gonna have some sort of emergency situation.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And and of course, I assume you're speaking to a lot of people who are having laparoscopy surgery as well, laparoscopic.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, both laparoscopic and and open surgery.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_07:But I think I think for the most part, most people are having laparoscopic surgery with mesh.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So yeah, just to clarify, of course, laparoscopy is pretty I I like it in terms of other surgeries that my patients have. It's kind of the uh I guess a bit more safer, but with hernias, it's essentially they push it back and they put a mesh in it to strengthen the muscle, just like we're trying to strengthen it. And like George will share ways that you can begin to to research and strengthen your own muscle, but they'll just push it in and put a put a mesh in it to strengthen itself. But that yeah, that's that's important to know um to clarify that people do have uh those conditions, and also people just don't like going through surgery. Like when I did this post on Instagram, there were so many people like I don't want to avoid go to surgery, I want to prevent it. I think just people don't like to go under and have their body cut up which I understand, of course. Yeah, me too. Now, can I just ask before we move on? Um, oh yeah, a couple things. One is hernia is getting worse. So this watch and wait approach, how okay, so we've got we've got a weak flubby muscle, we have some organs protruding it. That's just that's just gonna get worse, right? Because of gravity and because of movement and a pushing. Is that the is that why? And how quick can it get worse?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, I th I think that's I think that's accurate. And and I think it can it can happen pretty fast. It happened for me pretty fast. Within, I would say within two months, it went from being able to be reduced and stay reduced for a couple hours or even a full day to getting to the point where as soon as I got up out of bed in the morning, it would pop out and I couldn't get it to stay back in. I could push it in with my fingers, and if I held my fingers over it, I could keep it in. But as soon as I moved my fingers away, it would pop right out, and that happened within about two months.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_07:And but that was also I I stopped doing any kind of ab exercises once I once I figured out that it was a hernia, because I wanted to test it to see if I stopped doing ab exercises, if it would get worse, and it did. So that kind of got me thinking, like, okay, if if it got worse with no exercise, then I can make it better with exercise. And that's when I started trying to find the exercises to actually target the area to strengthen those muscles.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_07:So it happened very fast.
SPEAKER_02:And of course, some exercises can irritate it, but we'll go into that in a bit. Um so, and just last thing before we go into the treatments, I just want to ask about children. Do you have any experience with babies? Uh, because a lot of babies are born with it and have this uh more weakness. And they end up getting surgery when they're very young. Have you?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, not with not with babies, but um, I do talk to a couple of people that have children that are probably six or seven years old that have hernias, and for whatever reason, they either don't want or the kid can't have surgery. So they're you know, I've been going back and forth with them on just trying to help them through that. Um but that's it, that's pretty much it. Not really with babies too much.
SPEAKER_02:And it's basically a similar approach to the adults, right? Exercise, diet, yeah, emotional.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah. Pretty, pretty much it's just it's really hard for the kids because it's hard to know when you're doing the exercises right, even for an adult, to make sure that you're firing the correct muscles. So for a kid, it it's it's so much harder to make sure that they're doing the exercises right. Um, it's tough, it's tough.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, great. So let's go into it. I think let's let's start with um well, let's start with the belt because that's kind of like an important part to to help you to do what you need to do and get on with life as well. So you've created a hernia belt because you found that there were other belts were not doing a good job and they were uncomfortable. It's really funny. So I have I have an inguinal hernia, and I was doing I had to do some radical aerovetic detox procedure called Vamina, which is therapeutic vomiting. And it literally, yeah, I do it in yeah, it's part of a de it's it is we don't we see thousands of patients a year at this clinic and we and we don't do this much at all. We do it for a few people, but anyway, that's another topic. But for those who know, with inguinal hernia is like one of the for me the biggest thing is coughing, uh like severe coughing or or sneezing and that kind of strong reaction. And I just had the night thought before, I'm like, damn, like I need to, I'm just doing the and and you can vomit for 45 minutes, and it's quite a big procedure, which takes about three weeks or so to to get you ready for that. And um, and I thought, oh my god, and I and I never heard about it. I I only had a hernia for less than six months at that time. It was new, and like you, George, it just manifested. I didn't snow, I didn't feel it come out. But for me, it was probably from lifting wood. I went on a bit of a wood rampage over over a season and just did so much chopping and carrying of wood. But anyway, then the night before I'm like, oh my god, I've got to protect this hernia because it's gonna be intense. And and I kind of just wrapped a cloth around just out of my own. I never heard of a hernia belt, and I just did that, and it obviously it was not good at all. Like I tried to like wrap cloths around my grain, and and then later, much later, I found that okay, there are belts, and actually you've m made an amazing belt, which I have. So yeah, just first of all, obviously it pushes the hernia in. That's what the belt does. You it's a velcro, it's really well, really great, but it doesn't, it's not treating anything, right? Or is it by just constantly pushing it, it's just making you able to function.
SPEAKER_07:No, it's it's right, yeah. It's not, it's not treating anything, it's basically just holding the hernia in so that you can get on with your day, right? And you know, uh, for me it was it it was the basically a tool that allowed me to free up my mind to think about everything that I needed to do in order to heal.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_07:And to be able to do all the activities that I wanted to do.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Because if you got if you got one, you're not gonna do the like you know if it's protruding and it's a bit sore and you feel that kind of pressure or that kind of bloating in the groin, you're not gonna want to go exercise or go for a walk because so putting it in is important. But I think it it does add to the treatment in that when you don't have it protruding, then it's gonna be able to heal, right? And strengthen. So it is good to not have a head protruding all the time. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:It takes it takes the pressure, it takes the pressure off of the musculature, so that it's just not so that it's constantly not being pushed on, you know, it alleviates that pressure for sure. So yeah, I mean, it's a it's a it's it's a key component. And if you are gonna try and heal naturally, I think it's a it's a key component. Without it, you're really just you're not really doing yourself any good because all that pressure is constantly pushing on the muscles.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So where so your your company is called comfort-trust.com, is that correct? Yes, yeah, right. We'll share links to that. Um, you can get different belts and different strengths and for two hernies if you've got one on each side, or you choose the side, it's really well designed. So let yeah, let's start. So from watching your videos, I haven't done your I haven't sent checked out your program, I only just found that out. But I kind of got from it, and I basically watched every video. I think you've got like over 70 videos or something on YouTube. And I found kind of it seems to me like the the thing that you said overall is the most important is what we in yoga call udyana bandha, which is like what you call an ab vacuum, or uh bandha means lock. So it's like the abdominal lock and it's kind of sucking the the belly. And so maybe we should start there. Because I mean, tell me if I'm right that you kind of I got the feeling that in terms of exercises and interventions and practices, that's kind of like the most important, most influential. Would you say that's true?
SPEAKER_07:And yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uriana Banda?
SPEAKER_07:I have. I heard I've heard that word, but only since I since I posted those videos, and people say, hey, this is what that is.
SPEAKER_02:So I I have heard of it, but uh, one difference that you uh during Uriana Banda, which is literally what you were doing, you or you called it ab vacuum, you've say to flex the muscles that you use to hold urine in, or just to hold it in. Where when in Uriana Banda, usually what you would do is you would do a similar thing, but instead of the muscles to hold urine, it would be the perineum, actually. But when you're when you're holding the perineum is you are, you know, most people are going to kind of flex and tense the rectum as well as the muscles to hold urine in.
SPEAKER_07:So yeah, tell us a bit about yeah, so yeah, it's it's it's basically the it sounds like about the same thing. And I also like in the middle of that, I also try to use the chromaster muscle to pull the testes up towards the body. So that it's it's basically the all the pelvic, it feels like it's all the pelvic floor muscles are are being utilized to kind of you know pull up and hold.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_07:And I think what I figured out I when I first started doing that exercise, it was to build strength. I thought I was building strength in the muscles in the in the correct spot to be able to hold the hernia in, which it does, but that over time I realized that that wasn't the most important part of it. It was actually creating the mind muscle connection to keep those muscles firing all day long and keep those muscles tight, like what you were saying in the beginning, to move through life with muscles that are strong, instead of just allowing those muscles to be flabby. And you know, when you sit in a chair, you just kind of let your gut go. The more you do that exercise all throughout the day, at different times of the day, in a seated position, in a standing position, in a laying down position, the more that mind muscle connection gets created and the more tight that muscle will stay throughout the whole day.
SPEAKER_02:Right. This is super interesting because there's a bit of a conflict here that I have, and that is with a lot of people, their muscles are too activated. Like I'm not talking about hernia, I'm talking just general, especially women, they're sucking their stomach in, they're holding their this tension because they what don't want the belly to come out, and that is also actually creating tension and stress and menstrual issues. I see it a lot. Like some women, you or especially women, but so many people, all genders. When you, for example, they lie on my treatment table and I start to palpitate the abdomen or massage the abdomen, it's it's hard. I'm like, relax your belly, let it be like a baby's belly, let it be like the Buddha's belly, and then it softens and they can release some of that stress. So it's a very interesting thing because that's um what I what I was a big what I am a big proponent of of people having a relaxed abdomen. Of course, you don't want it to be too relaxed so that the muscles become weak. But fine balance there. And then I I guess if you do have a hernia, then maybe it is more on the side of you need to every day keep awareness of the tension. I mean, when we're stressed, we we hold our tense in our belly. You can just see if you're whatever makes you even if you're just walking or have a phone call. Okay, relax. Everyone listening to this podcast right now, relax your belly. Let it come out like a baby's belly, like it's probably what's tense, right? So it's an interesting balance.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and I think I think it might be different muscles that are that you're utilizing to do that too. Like if you're holding your stomach in, you're using a different set of muscles that are much higher to kind of have, you know, if you want to look like you have a six-pack, or you know, women looks look like they want to have a flat stomach. This is much lower. It's a much lower tension that you're holding, like just above your pubic bone. That's um that's not really aesthetic. Like you wouldn't know if I was actually holding it right now, if if I even if I had my shirt off. You would you wouldn't know. So I yeah, I think there is kind of maybe a fine line between actually holding your stomach in and just keeping the muscles tight that need to be tight in order to hold the hernia in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I love that. And and just if everyone listening wants to try that, like kind of strengthen your flex your pelvic muscles, the pubic bone, hold them up, that really gives your body a good structure and supports you structurally and makes you be able to stand strong and also even move your arms strong. So I think that is, and the cause, as we explore, like that's I think with me, like the cause a lot of people is that weak pelvis. And that feels good to keep that active um and strong. Yeah, definitely. Okay, that's great.
SPEAKER_07:Especially, especially when your pelvic posture is correct. If you're if your pelvic posture is not correct, it's a lot harder to even get those muscles to fire correctly because if you're if your pelvis is an anterior pelvic tilt, you know, you you got tight hip flexors, and everything's just kind of out of whack. So once you get the pelvis in the correct position, it's a lot easier to target those muscles and make that mind muscle connection so that they're they're firing.
SPEAKER_02:And just for the listeners, anterior pelvic tilt is super common. It's kind of like a bit of an arch back, it's like when the top of your hips are forward and you kind of curve your back more, right?
SPEAKER_07:Right. Yeah. Yeah, your butt kind of sticks out, you're right. Your and your stomach, the your your stomach sticks out. I actually have a picture on my blog from of me when I was a kid, and you could see like I had a big old belly that would just stick out. Me and my brother both, we both have the same exact body type, big bellies. And I realized, like as I was growing up, I I got self-conscious of it, you know, as I became a teenager, and I was I would hold my stomach in, like what you were saying, to make it look like I didn't have this big belly sticking out. But what I didn't realize is that I was having to do that because of the anterior pelvic tilt is what was making my belly stick out because my pelvis was tilted forward.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and that's also something that you can bring awareness into everyday life of bringing the top of the hips back and maybe the pubic bone or the coccyx as well, a bit forward, the coccyx rather. So the the tailbone, yeah, moving it a bit forward, and definitely straining. So with the Uriana Bandha, how often do you recommend to do it for in general?
SPEAKER_07:I would try to get a hundred reps per day.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_07:Not all at one time, but break them up throughout the entire day. Maybe do 10 in the morning when you're just laying there in bed, do another 10 when you're standing in the kitchen cooking breakfast, you know, do another 10 when you're sitting in your at your desk in your chair, just sit all throughout the day in all different positions.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_07:And yeah, just you know, probably I I would try to get a hundred a hundred per day.
SPEAKER_02:Amazing. Okay, great target. I like the strong target. So with Oniani Bundle, we're exhaling fully and then we're sucking in the abdomen. Um, we generally do that for basically as long as you can hold it on the exhale, which is not that long for people. It's hard for them to, especially when you're pulling your muscles up. Is that kind of what you as well do? You kind of hold it out as long as you can, the breath.
SPEAKER_07:No, I would I would normally I would normally breathe out as I suck in, I would breathe out, but then I would I would breathe shallow breaths while I was holding it.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_07:So that I guess I guess I just wanted to program my mind to be able to breathe while I was holding it and not have to hold my breath in order to make that happen.
SPEAKER_02:Right. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, it does. It's uh interesting thing because it is more integrating it into your everyday life if you are breathing while doing that, rather than it being a specific practice. Okay, I'm gonna exhale fully, and so that's very interesting. It's something I'll experiment with. Yeah, and I like and that also brings it to doing it any any position, like you said.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and you're not and even when I first started doing it, I could only hold it for maybe three seconds, four seconds before I would just yeah, my muscles would just wear out, right? You know, so I so I had to build up to in order to even get to 10 seconds or beyond that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean in yoga, it's it's just hand sitting, and even your heels across your cross-legged, but your heels are kind of pressing into your groin, so that's really again activating that root pelvic floor, and then you kind of lean as you lean forward, you press your palms on your knees, and you just do a big exhale out of the mouth and then suck it up. So okay, great. Is there any other kind of breathing exercises or uh that we should touch on before moving?
SPEAKER_07:No, that that was basically the main one. The only thing I would say is that when I first started doing it, I was doing it where in my in my head I was picturing my the the abdominal contents being sucked up underneath my ribs. I was trying to pull everything upwards, and I realized that that wasn't that wasn't working. And I found a video from from a physiotherapist or someone on YouTube that had that was using visual cues to actually tense those muscles that I was trying to hit. So I changed it to where I would actually use a visual cue of a string that goes across from the pointy protrusion that's on the front of your hip bones. I forget the the term for it. AC. Yeah, the intellect crest. You picture a string that goes across from one to the other side, and then another string that's attached to that string and goes straight back to your spine. So you basically have two strings in a T in a T shape. And what you're trying to do is you're trying to flex that string that's going across from the hips back into the spine. And as soon as I did that, as soon as I as soon as I had that visual cue that I was thinking about, it it immediately hit the right the muscle right where the hernia was, and I could feel it. If I put my my hand over top of where the hernia was, I could feel the muscles flex underneath my fingers like never before. When I was trying to suck it up underneath my ribs, I never felt that flex underneath my fingers if I had my hand where the hernia was. But once I used those visual cues, it it just it hit right in the right spot, and that's when it really started working.
SPEAKER_02:Do you have a link to that video?
SPEAKER_07:I don't. I I might have it somewhere, but I'd have to look for it. Well, do you have a video that you've made to I do in my program, yeah, that that walks through the whole thing in my program?
SPEAKER_02:Okay, that's great. Okay, so diet. I mean, to be I'll just start, as I said, the vata, the air element, the gas, uh, the air in that area. I mean, it's very everyone who knows, if you feel bloated, it feels you feel that. And also, what about before we go into the abdomen, what about the bladder? Does that have an influence?
SPEAKER_07:I think it can. Like if you if your bladder, if like if it's full all the time, if you don't pee enough, you know, I thought I think that that can definitely play a part. Anything that takes up takes up space inside the abdomen, like gas or bloating or fluids or anything like that, is gonna add inter-abdominal pressure and it's gonna find the path of least resistance, which is where your hernia is.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So just to be simple for for for the air in the stomach, we we say no better, like increases like. So anything that has air, like best example is carbonated drinks, and really anything that you don't digest well, raw foods uh can be one because your body has to cook it and it gives that air and kind of crisps, these kind of dry foods, crisps or processed foods that have the rancid oils that actually dry the system out. Bunch of stuff. But whatever causes you cold, cold foods and cold drinks will put a lot of pressure on that. Rather than it's hot, kind of softens that and and makes things a bit less less hard in that way. Let makes the gas less hard. And but yeah, it's just look off look after your digestion. Uh, don't have things that are hard to digest. Use digestive uh aids like Shodanavati and different herbs. Anything you want to specifically mention with diet?
SPEAKER_07:Um no, just for me, for me it was it ended up being gluten and um and dairy were the two, my two two culprits that were causing a lot of bloating and gas, excess gas. Um and I had to do I did a 30-day elimination test basically to figure that out. So I didn't I didn't eat cheese or or any dairy for 30 days, and then on the 31st day, I had a slice of cheese and it immediately caused excess gas and made my hernia pop out. I was like, okay, cheese definitely has a negative effect on on my digestion. So I just so I cut it out. And the same with with gluten, and those two things that those were probably I I would say diet is probably the fastest, it will have the fastest effect on your hernia when you change your diet. That's the fastest way to make positive changes.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Awesome. Glad you mentioned. And well, yeah, we've to learn more about diet, we you can check out Vital Veda and and Essence of Nutrition. Uh, we got programs on diet, and of course, George will have also diet segments in his in his program, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that the trick, the tricky thing for diet is is that it's just so different for everyone. Like what you know, what worked for what worked for me might not work for you. So it's really just a test and see.
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SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, that one was actually a sh kind of surprise for me. I I wasn't even thinking at all about anything like that. I was thinking purely physical, you know, exercise and you know, things like that, definitely nothing mental. And then I was talking to somebody that was going through the same thing, dealing with a hernia, and he recommended a book by uh Dr. John Sarno called Healing Back Pain, the Mind Body Connection. And he, in that book, he walks you through what tension myoneural syndrome is, how it occurs, how it presents. I was reading this book, and he was talking to me exactly. He was explaining my personality, my everything was right there on the page. And um, and I I've been dealing with back pain since I was 18 years old for you know my my entire adult life. I was like um the hurt back guy, you know, sometimes my back would go out and I'd be laid up for a week on the floor, not not able to move because my torso would be off from my from my from my hips and uh just really, really bad. And um just reading this book within, I mean, it just in the deep understanding of what was going on. I read that book and I read one other book called Um The Great Pain Deception. Well, not even the whole thing, maybe about a quarter of it, that just explained a little bit deeper what what TMS was and that and how how it was working in the psyche. Um, and my back pain was completely gone. And I haven't had back pain since then. And at the same time, my hernia went away. So there was definitely it would there it was definitely having the same effect with my hernia and my back pain. There's definitely a correlation to it.
SPEAKER_04:So fantastic.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it was it was crazy to me.
SPEAKER_02:Amazing. So, in regards to exercise, we're not going to go into it, but just because it's not so easy to do via audio, but you can check out um George's programs, and you've got a whole bunch of exercises. Essentially, as we talked about, you're strengthening the transverse abdominus and the obliques, those are like the main muscle groups or muscles, right? Right. And that's they're not that easy to access, right? Like no, no, they're not. That's the trick with these exercises, and that's why like you you mentioned like the Uryana Bandha is like not so much a uh an exit like a muscular thing, it's more that that memory and pulling up uh experience, which is interesting because you do some of these exercises, and I've been recommended exercises from um you know chiropractors and physios, and and they're so subtle, but I think that is with these muscles, right? They're they're they're more subtle exercises.
SPEAKER_07:It is, yeah. And it's funny because when I first started doing them, I was I'm just the kind the type of person that I'm gonna go all in, I'm gonna go 100%, I'm gonna crush this. And I would do them every day. And my hernia got really, it got worse. The more I did the exercises, the worse I was at my hernia was. And I realized that I needed to take a step back and actually allow the muscles to recover. And I realized that I could only do it about two times a week, and any more than that was would actually have a negative effect. So you really have to take it slow, start off slow, and then you know, just allow your muscles to recover in between workouts.
SPEAKER_02:And and that also adds to the that there are certain exercises that will irritate it. Like I think it's like leg lifting, right? If you're just lifting up and down and working the the abdomen, the abs, that that could irritate.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, there's a there's a lot of the a lot of the exercises that I that I did were leg lift type exercises.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So you know, you were doing you were doing more diagonal, like you're doing like these Vs and spreading the legs, right? Like that really has more brings in that diagonal muscular systems, which are like the transverse abdominals, but I think the standard up and down of the legs, straight legs, and maybe even sit-ups and things like this can irritate that area.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, especially if you don't have you because if you if you have a a weakness there, when you're doing a sit-up and you and you don't know how to correctly hold that that musculature so that it's keeping the hernia in, it's gonna, it's gonna push out because when you sit up, the pressure has to go somewhere, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Right. That's great. Um I'm so glad you joined George. Is there anything uh one more thing I have? What do you do you have or have you come across any correlation between an inguinal hernia and sexual health or sexual intimacy?
SPEAKER_07:Not really for me, no, other than the confidence aspect of it. Because, you know, for for when my hernia was bad, I I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want my wife to see me without my clothes on because it was embarrassing. Um, and you know, sexual health of a lot of it is all about confidence. So without that, yeah, it definitely can have a negative effect. But as far as uh like physically, uh I didn't experience anything negative like that. And you haven't come across people who have not really most of this most of the people that I talk to about it, it's more of on the on the mental side, on the confidence side.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so that's great. And one thing I just will again add it, we did haven't touched on it enough, and I I forget because is constipation and having regular bowel movement is super important. Uh, again, that pressure can really influence. So, whatever you know, we we talk a lot about that in Aerovetta and and on Vital Veda on how to have uh every day a complete bowel motion before any food or coffee. And you can use herbal support, which helps your body to have to activate its own waste removal mechanisms. But food and sipping hot water and waking up early and light dinner, taking Shandavati herbs before dinner, all these things can help. And that's I wanted to just add that.
SPEAKER_07:Um yeah, yeah, definitely. That's that's super important.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, great. So I've had again some of the Instagram DMs were things like, oh, I've just got a an inguinal honey, it's only minor right now. Like it's very small, but like, yeah, please take the action and start these exercises and practices, and then you can allow that to kind of heal and strengthen the muscles. Um, but that's great.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I think I think just being just being proactive, you know, from from the beginning, if you the more proactive you could be, the better off you are, even if you do end up getting surgery.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_07:You know, the all this stuff is only going to make your outcome of surgery better.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_07:It's not it's not going to make it make anything worse. So, you know, you might as well just be proactive and and do some of it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I mean, how I wonder how common it is in weightlifters, you know, who do weightlifting as a sport. I just see like I can just imagine the cringe at looking at that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I'm sure there's I'm sure there's plenty.
SPEAKER_02:They wear belts and stuff. I mean, yeah, not just all types of heniers. All right. Well, um, that's great, George. Is there anything else you want to mention?
SPEAKER_06:Or uh not that I can think of.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_06:So you covered everything pretty well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I really appreciate it. And just definitely check out um comfort-trush.com and you can you can get the the belts there. You can check out the proactive approach to hernia intervention, which is looks wonderful. And um that includes like online community as well, is that right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it does. Yeah, that's whatever. Yeah, and the ability to ask to ask me questions directly. So I always prioritize you know all the community questions before any of my social media or anything like that.
SPEAKER_02:So which it seems you kind of dialed down now, anyway, that you're kind of past that.
SPEAKER_07:Is that yeah, it's just it's I'm just trying to do like interviews like this, or like I'm trying to find other people that have healed their hernia as naturally that I could interview, things like that, so that people can get a different perspective, other than just my experience, because my experience is just you know, it's just what I did. So that there could be plenty of other things that might help that I don't even know about or that you know that I didn't try.
SPEAKER_01:So okay. Thanks so much, George.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, no problem. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you.
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